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torbjork



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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definitely a black belt in Tae Kwon Do

Kukkiwon dan number, please.
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Kung-Fu Joe



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

andyg wrote:
Given that a Karate BB will take about 4 years, generally closer to 6. Unless it's GKR, then maybe 2 years. I believe from comments i have seen that a BJJ BB is 8 years would be achieveable. Can someone confirm that?
While he is obviously an extreme exception to the normal pace, B.J. Penn achieved his BJJ Black Belt in about 3 years time. Also, Matt Serra earned his Black Belt relatively quickly-- around 5 to 7 years, if I recall correctly. But from what I've read and been told, a period of eight-to-ten years (or more) is the more common length of time.

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So - 4 years Karate - 8 years BJJ - (so 17 subract 12) leaves 5 years to achieve BB in TKD and equivalent in Muay Thai. Is that right?

cool
It is notable that, depending on the particular style of Karate involved, a number of the Kata might be similar to the TKD forms he'd need to learn. Also, depending on the type of training he'd done in Karate and TKD, it's certainly conceivable a person could register some success in Muay Thai, as well.

Has Mr. Perry ever competed in the sports related to these arts? No big deal if he hasn't-- hell, Bruce Lee never competed. You don't necessarily need to be a proficient competitor to be a good teacher. But it would certainly help quell some of the malcontent if he has competed.

--Joe
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damon2120



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow at least there is one person (Kung Fu Joe) who isn't a total idiot.

You guys claim you know about fighting and training but think you have to train in a bubble.

So someone can't learn Thai fighting at the same time as they learn BJJ?

Someone should tell all the UFC fighters from doing it.
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andyg



Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

damon2120 wrote:
Wow at least there is one person (Kung Fu Joe) who isn't a total idiot.

You guys claim you know about fighting and training but think you have to train in a bubble.

So someone can't learn Thai fighting at the same time as they learn BJJ?

Someone should tell all the UFC fighters from doing it.


I read Kung Fu Joe's post, and yes, it was illuminating. He gave examples of people quite proficient in coming to grips with an art and excelling and achieving BB status. And yes, similarities between arts may allow for accelerated achievement in another art.

In general, the people i have seen excelling in multiple arts, train majorly one art at a time. I am talking about people aiming for BB in an art, or even preparing for Muay Thai tournaments. That's my experience.

Either way, my original question has yet again been ignored. I have asked politely what actual styles in the various arts, and what belts.

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?

I train goju kai - 4th kyu. It should be that easy.

andyG
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