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Mecho



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Anyone seen this move in rolling ever? ???

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SenseiAl
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Reversed ompelata? Yes I have used that during rolling. I don't believe that it is a very practical technique but every once in a while you get the opening and it is very satisfying because it is a very clever move.
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All Round Fighter



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Never even heard of a Kimura done against the legs. Is it even possible???? may have to try it out at training later. Could someone go into more detail or post a vid perhaps?
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SenseiAl
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes Kimura lock isn't used against the legs. The Ompelata is similar to the Kimura and uses YOUR legs to lock your partners ARM.
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steve



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Umm, with all due respect to you as a bjj black belt (quite a feat and much to be respected), its called an OMAPLATA not as you refered to it in to seperate posts- "Ompelata". Wink
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steve



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BTW- I have no myspace username, this forum was brought to my attention through another forum. Steve is my name.
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Mikey Triangles



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SenseiAl wrote:
Reversed ompelata? Yes I have used that during rolling. I don't believe that it is a very practical technique but every once in a while you get the opening and it is very satisfying because it is a very clever move.



Why would you say it's not practical?


Both the omoplata and reverse omoplata are some of the most high percentage techniques in high level BJJ.
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wutang



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mikey Triangles wrote:
SenseiAl wrote:
Reversed ompelata? Yes I have used that during rolling. I don't believe that it is a very practical technique but every once in a while you get the opening and it is very satisfying because it is a very clever move.



Why would you say it's not practical?


Both the omoplata and reverse omoplata are some of the most high percentage techniques in high level BJJ.


Andre Galvao is pretty good at these.
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AgentCooper



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
Andre Galvao is pretty good at these.


But does this Galvao character know the deadly "ompelata" or the even deadlier "reverse ompelata"? No? I didn't think so.
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letmbleed



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SenseiAl wrote:
Reversed ompelata? Yes I have used that during rolling. I don't believe that it is a very practical technique but every once in a while you get the opening and it is very satisfying because it is a very clever move.


17 years of bjj and a black belt, and you only pull platas once in a while? Because it's not practical?

Have you ever heard of Marcelo Garcia?

I have a picture with him. Yeah, I'm a black belt.
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Eddie Shamrock



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

When you say Kimura vs. the legs, do you mean the Americana Toehold?

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Eddie Shamrock



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is an example of an Americana toe hold/figure four toe hold/ plain old toe hold, being demonstrated by Chris Leben. Is this the move?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Zd2KDxXqQ

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Eddie Shamrock



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Leg locks, kimuras, omoplatas, and anything else. I thought this was a grappling forum, not a post pictures from perverted Japanese comics forum.

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Eddie Shamrock



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That's what you get when you invade Russia without knowing any submission defenses I guess.

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Eddie Shamrock



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No, I'm pretty sure it was a leg lock. You are thinking of a previous match, between Hitler and Winston Churchill. (Churchill's cardio was not much to speak off, but he was merely laying on his back while Hitler tried to spastically power his way out of the guard)

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